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		<title>By: Mary</title>
		<link>http://homesteepedhope.com/2007/04/10/the-funnel-theory-of-parenting/comment-page-1/#comment-4487</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 04:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, I appreciate hearing where you're coming from, and it sounds good. I think we're probably more on the same page than you'd think, considering whose materials I've used. I've heard of Dr. Sears book before, and will keep my eye out for it at the library. 

If you've noticed, in all your blog-reading today, ;) I don't advocate infant-spanking. I can't remember reading that in any of the Pearl's stuff, and definitely not in the Ezzo's materials. I know they both recommend swatting hands as early as 8 months of age, but that's all I recall. I guess the common sense part of what I've taken away and USED is what sticks with me. Do you agree with everything Dr. Sears recommends? Maybe you do. 

On the spanking, we rarely have to spank, but I feel it's because of how we've raised the kiddos and the level of love and respect we've got for each other. 

I'm not a die-hard fan of anybody but the Lord, and I have to admit the scheduling and ordered way of raising kids appeals to me based on my reading of the word.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, I appreciate hearing where you&#8217;re coming from, and it sounds good. I think we&#8217;re probably more on the same page than you&#8217;d think, considering whose materials I&#8217;ve used. I&#8217;ve heard of Dr. Sears book before, and will keep my eye out for it at the library. </p>
<p>If you&#8217;ve noticed, in all your blog-reading today, <img src='http://homesteepedhope.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> I don&#8217;t advocate infant-spanking. I can&#8217;t remember reading that in any of the Pearl&#8217;s stuff, and definitely not in the Ezzo&#8217;s materials. I know they both recommend swatting hands as early as 8 months of age, but that&#8217;s all I recall. I guess the common sense part of what I&#8217;ve taken away and USED is what sticks with me. Do you agree with everything Dr. Sears recommends? Maybe you do. </p>
<p>On the spanking, we rarely have to spank, but I feel it&#8217;s because of how we&#8217;ve raised the kiddos and the level of love and respect we&#8217;ve got for each other. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not a die-hard fan of anybody but the Lord, and I have to admit the scheduling and ordered way of raising kids appeals to me based on my reading of the word.</p>
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		<title>By: Linda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Linda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 03:39:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i like dr. sears' baby and discipline books. we use a combo of positive discipline and just trying to have good communication skills. we're actually on the *stricter* end of the spectrum as far as expectations go, at least in our peer group. i am not the most patient person so i had to teach (i prefer that to *train*, but whatever) them to mind well from an early age. they are great kids, their only behavior issue being an excess of silliness at times. i do not spank or shame and rarely punish. i also do not believe in rewarding just for normal, expected beahvior. i want my kids to want to belong to our family and our community because of the joy of being a part of something.

i know you said you don't spank for silly things, but as you know, the pearls advocate spanking for anything and everything, starting in infancy. i find that extremely immoral and wrong and detrimental to the parent child bond. i personally believe that if you're usinf spnaking more than every once in a blue moon, it's very likely that you are using it inappropriately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i like dr. sears&#8217; baby and discipline books. we use a combo of positive discipline and just trying to have good communication skills. we&#8217;re actually on the *stricter* end of the spectrum as far as expectations go, at least in our peer group. i am not the most patient person so i had to teach (i prefer that to *train*, but whatever) them to mind well from an early age. they are great kids, their only behavior issue being an excess of silliness at times. i do not spank or shame and rarely punish. i also do not believe in rewarding just for normal, expected beahvior. i want my kids to want to belong to our family and our community because of the joy of being a part of something.</p>
<p>i know you said you don&#8217;t spank for silly things, but as you know, the pearls advocate spanking for anything and everything, starting in infancy. i find that extremely immoral and wrong and detrimental to the parent child bond. i personally believe that if you&#8217;re usinf spnaking more than every once in a blue moon, it&#8217;s very likely that you are using it inappropriately.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 03:29:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess everyone has a different opinion on what's considered mean and morally questionable. I like to think I'm not a mean mom, but I would have never thought of the "watermelon/toddler" post being taken as me "teasing" my toddler. (I know it wasn't you that said that, but I imagine you agree!). I wasn't being mean, my toddler got the point and was soon making us laugh over her latest Tarzan imitation. 

I think it's because I started young with the kids and high with my expectations that they're so easy to be around. We don't punish for silly moments, we let the "kids be kids"...they know they're loved and cherished and can talk to us about anything without getting a long lecture. They're considerate, which is huge to me. I don't want obedience out of fear or done in bitterness and resentment, I want my family functioning as a family unit in which each is looking out for the other's best. This takes training. 

And training isn't all about spanking and sin, etc. It's a lot of talking and role-playing in non-conflict times. A parent has to have the right attitude in order for the child to have the right response.

I'm interested in what route you recommend, books, authors/speakers? And not so I can pick it apart, I'm truly interested.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess everyone has a different opinion on what&#8217;s considered mean and morally questionable. I like to think I&#8217;m not a mean mom, but I would have never thought of the &#8220;watermelon/toddler&#8221; post being taken as me &#8220;teasing&#8221; my toddler. (I know it wasn&#8217;t you that said that, but I imagine you agree!). I wasn&#8217;t being mean, my toddler got the point and was soon making us laugh over her latest Tarzan imitation. </p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s because I started young with the kids and high with my expectations that they&#8217;re so easy to be around. We don&#8217;t punish for silly moments, we let the &#8220;kids be kids&#8221;&#8230;they know they&#8217;re loved and cherished and can talk to us about anything without getting a long lecture. They&#8217;re considerate, which is huge to me. I don&#8217;t want obedience out of fear or done in bitterness and resentment, I want my family functioning as a family unit in which each is looking out for the other&#8217;s best. This takes training. </p>
<p>And training isn&#8217;t all about spanking and sin, etc. It&#8217;s a lot of talking and role-playing in non-conflict times. A parent has to have the right attitude in order for the child to have the right response.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m interested in what route you recommend, books, authors/speakers? And not so I can pick it apart, I&#8217;m truly interested.</p>
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		<title>By: Linda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Linda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 03:04:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i don't think anyone would disagree that small children need limits and boundaries. i just oppose the ezzo's methods of enforcing those boundaries. why strike a toddler or baby when it's simply not necessary and sends a pretty awful message. good parents can assert their authority without doing things that are mean and morally questionable, so why not go that route instead?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i don&#8217;t think anyone would disagree that small children need limits and boundaries. i just oppose the ezzo&#8217;s methods of enforcing those boundaries. why strike a toddler or baby when it&#8217;s simply not necessary and sends a pretty awful message. good parents can assert their authority without doing things that are mean and morally questionable, so why not go that route instead?</p>
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		<title>By: Mary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 18:37:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MInTheGap, thanks for commenting--we cross-posted! 

I think too many choices give young children a big head. They begin to think they know better than mommy or daddy and soon you have a huge problem on your hands. Ever hear parents bargaining with their offspring? Scary. Our oldest still seeks permission for many things other kids take for granted, yet she is so responsible and clear-headed she often takes the initiative in filling in where needed by helping in our family. In terms of responsibility, she acts more like a 13 year old than a 9 year old. I just love how thoughtful she is, and respectful. And I funnel-parented her "religiously". So they eventually become responsible, good decision makers w/o all the opportunities as a young child.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MInTheGap, thanks for commenting&#8211;we cross-posted! </p>
<p>I think too many choices give young children a big head. They begin to think they know better than mommy or daddy and soon you have a huge problem on your hands. Ever hear parents bargaining with their offspring? Scary. Our oldest still seeks permission for many things other kids take for granted, yet she is so responsible and clear-headed she often takes the initiative in filling in where needed by helping in our family. In terms of responsibility, she acts more like a 13 year old than a 9 year old. I just love how thoughtful she is, and respectful. And I funnel-parented her &#8220;religiously&#8221;. So they eventually become responsible, good decision makers w/o all the opportunities as a young child.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary</title>
		<link>http://homesteepedhope.com/2007/04/10/the-funnel-theory-of-parenting/comment-page-1/#comment-2139</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 18:33:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for weighing in Amy and Colleen! 

Amy, one thing I found surprising is that even at 8 months old, these littles have GREAT memories! They are so sharp and learn earlier than you'd think. It's so hard to remember when they "ignore" you that they are probably doing it on purpose! What worked for me before actually saying "no" was getting her attention by saying her name...let's say it's Lydia. "Lydia, look at mommy"...then once you get her eyes on yours, then you say "no". That way she's got the message loud and clear and can't ignore you. She's a bit young, but when the time comes, that simple advice (from Elisabeth Elliot) works wonders. You may have to reinforce it the first couple of times with a slight swat to get her attention!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for weighing in Amy and Colleen! </p>
<p>Amy, one thing I found surprising is that even at 8 months old, these littles have GREAT memories! They are so sharp and learn earlier than you&#8217;d think. It&#8217;s so hard to remember when they &#8220;ignore&#8221; you that they are probably doing it on purpose! What worked for me before actually saying &#8220;no&#8221; was getting her attention by saying her name&#8230;let&#8217;s say it&#8217;s Lydia. &#8220;Lydia, look at mommy&#8221;&#8230;then once you get her eyes on yours, then you say &#8220;no&#8221;. That way she&#8217;s got the message loud and clear and can&#8217;t ignore you. She&#8217;s a bit young, but when the time comes, that simple advice (from Elisabeth Elliot) works wonders. You may have to reinforce it the first couple of times with a slight swat to get her attention!</p>
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		<title>By: MInTheGap</title>
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		<dc:creator>MInTheGap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 18:30:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a good point.  A lot of child training materials that I have seen in the secular world talk about introducing decision making at certain ages (like "which shirt do you want to wear", etc.).  I'm beginning to wonder if these types of choices encourage the whole "this is my favorite and I'm not going to be satisfied if I don't have this specific one" attitude.

Thanks for getting me thinking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a good point.  A lot of child training materials that I have seen in the secular world talk about introducing decision making at certain ages (like &#8220;which shirt do you want to wear&#8221;, etc.).  I&#8217;m beginning to wonder if these types of choices encourage the whole &#8220;this is my favorite and I&#8217;m not going to be satisfied if I don&#8217;t have this specific one&#8221; attitude.</p>
<p>Thanks for getting me thinking.</p>
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		<title>By: Colleen</title>
		<link>http://homesteepedhope.com/2007/04/10/the-funnel-theory-of-parenting/comment-page-1/#comment-2130</link>
		<dc:creator>Colleen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 10:39:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This awesome. I had never heard of this before.  I think you're right.  Parents need to be more invovled from an earlier age!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This awesome. I had never heard of this before.  I think you&#8217;re right.  Parents need to be more invovled from an earlier age!</p>
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		<title>By: Amy</title>
		<link>http://homesteepedhope.com/2007/04/10/the-funnel-theory-of-parenting/comment-page-1/#comment-2114</link>
		<dc:creator>Amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 02:11:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This makes so much sense.  Lydia is 5 months and two days old and yesterday I told her "No" for the first time.  (She has been grabbing my eye glasses ...and her dad's...she's just realized they can be removed).  It was so hard to say no and remove her little hand.  I kept thinking to myself "she's just exploring."  I have to get in the mindset now to be more firm...for her own good!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This makes so much sense.  Lydia is 5 months and two days old and yesterday I told her &#8220;No&#8221; for the first time.  (She has been grabbing my eye glasses &#8230;and her dad&#8217;s&#8230;she&#8217;s just realized they can be removed).  It was so hard to say no and remove her little hand.  I kept thinking to myself &#8220;she&#8217;s just exploring.&#8221;  I have to get in the mindset now to be more firm&#8230;for her own good!</p>
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		<title>By: Mary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 01:33:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jen, glad you like the Ezzos, so many times bringing them up stirs controversy. I've been so blessed by their materials that I recommend them to my friends a lot.:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jen, glad you like the Ezzos, so many times bringing them up stirs controversy. I&#8217;ve been so blessed by their materials that I recommend them to my friends a lot.:)</p>
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